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Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated — Hardware Requirements & GPU Compatibility

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Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated is a 180.0B-parameter open language model from windowsxp811203 in the Qwen 3.8 family. It supports a context window of up to 262,144 tokens. At Q4_K_M it needs about 108.38 GB of VRAM — see which GPUs and Macs can run it below.

180.0B params · MoE62B active262K contextOther933 downloads6 likes48.9K quant downloads

Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated runs on a 128 GB+ Mac or a datacenter GPU

Best local pick → Mac Pro M2 Ultra (128 GB) · Q4_K_M · 109 GB · ~13 tok/s

Macs from96 GB Q3_K_M · ~16 tok/s

Other

Not set up for it?

Reference GPU · RTX 4090 24 GB

Estimates, ±20% · how we estimate

Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated

One recommended way. Every other method, OS and quant is in the step-by-step guide.

Recommended

Ollama
one command · needs Ollama installed
$ollama run hf.co/windowsxp811203/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Abliterated-GGUF:Q4_K_M

Q4_K_M runs on one Instinct MI250X 128 GB · 16K context

Download: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Abliterated-Q4_K_M.gguf119.15 GBwindowsxp811203

install, OS, other quants

Other ways

each opens step-by-step

Run in cloud

Fits on H200 (141 GB) (32 GB headroom) · Q4_K_M

Generation speed
~69 tok/s
generation speed
Cost per 1M output tokens
$14.47
per 1M output tokens

How Much VRAM Does Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated Need?

Select a quantization level; the listed hardware adheres to it.

QuantizationVRAM+32KRuns on
76.9 GB78.1 GB2-bit · K-quant — 2-bit quantization with K-quant improvementsRuns on H100 SXM 80 GB
88.1 GB89.4 GB3-bit medium — 3-bit medium quantizationRuns on RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell Max-Q Workstation Edition 96 GB
108.4 GB109.6 GB4-bit medium — 4-bit medium quantization — most popular sweet spotRuns on Instinct MI250X 128 GB
128.6 GB129.9 GB5-bit medium — 5-bit medium quantization — good quality/size tradeoffRuns on H200 NVL 141 GB
148.9 GB150.1 GB6-bit, very good — 6-bit quantization, very good qualityRuns on B200 192 GB
180.4 GB181.6 GB8-bit, near-lossless — 8-bit quantization, near-losslessRuns on B200 192 GB
360.4 GB361.6 GB16-bit · bfloat — Brain floating point 16 — preferred for trainingRuns on 6× H100 SXM 80 GB
est.calculated, no published file yet

Selected Q4_K_M

4-bit medium quantization

109.0GBat 16K context

Weights
108.0 GB
KV cache
0.7 GB
Overhead
0.3 GB

Server-class: ~109 GB at 16K context · one Instinct MI250X 128 GB

Or rent H200 from $3.59/hr.

Which Hardware Can Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

Q4_K_M · 108.4 GB

Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated (Q4_K_M) requires 108.4 GB of VRAM to load the model weights. For comfortable inference with headroom for KV cache and system overhead, 141+ GB is recommended. Using the full 262K context window can add up to 10.7 GB, bringing total usage to 119.0 GB. No consumer GPU has enough memory. 18 devices with unified memory can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated, including Mac Studio (M3 Ultra, 256GB), Mac Studio (M3 Ultra, 512GB), Mac Pro M2 Ultra (128 GB).

By VRAM tier · typical GPUs and Macs at Q4_K_M

Consumer GPUs (up to 32 GB) and Macs up to 64 GB: too small for this model (needs ≥ 77.5 GB)8 GB tier →12 GB tier →16 GB tier →24 GB tier →Macs →

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Specifications

Publisher
windowsxp811203
Family
Qwen 3.8
Parameters
180.0B
Active parameters
61.6B per token
Architecture
Qwen4ExpForConditionalGeneration
Context Length
262,144 tokens
Vocabulary Size
248,320
Release Date
2026-08-26
License
Other

Frequently Asked Questions

How much VRAM does Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated need?

Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated requires 108.4 GB of VRAM at Q4_K_M, or 360.4 GB at BF16. Full 262K context adds up to 10.7 GB (119.0 GB total).

VRAM = Weights + KV Cache + Overhead

Weights = 180.0B × 4.8 bits ÷ 8 = 108 GB

KV Cache + Overhead ≈ 0.4 GB (at 2K context + ~0.3 GB framework)

Fit ratings and hardware model lists check this model with room for a 16K-token context, which needs a little more memory.

KV Cache + Overhead ≈ 11 GB (at full 262K context)

VRAM usage by quantization

108.4 GB
119.0 GB

Learn more about VRAM estimation →

Can NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

No — Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated requires at least 76.9 GB at Q2_K, which exceeds the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090's 32 GB of VRAM.

What's the best quantization for Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

For Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated, Q4_K_M (108.4 GB) offers the best balance of quality and VRAM usage. Q5_K_M (128.6 GB) provides better quality if you have the VRAM. The smallest option is Q2_K at 76.9 GB.

VRAM requirement by quantization

Q2_K
76.9 GB
Q4_K_M ★
108.4 GB
Q5_K_M
128.6 GB
Q6_K
148.9 GB
Q8_0
180.4 GB
BF16
360.4 GB

★ Recommended — best balance of quality and VRAM usage.

Learn more about quantization →

Can I run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated on a Mac?

Yes — Mac Studio (M3 Ultra, 96GB) and 20 other Macs can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated, the smallest at Q3_K_M. Apple Silicon uses unified memory, so the model shares RAM with the system. At Q4_K_M you need at least 108.4 GB of usable unified memory (RAM minus macOS overhead), from Mac Pro M2 Ultra (128 GB).

Can I run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated locally?

Yes — Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated can run locally on consumer hardware. Popular tools include Ollama, LM Studio, and llama.cpp.

How fast is Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

At Q4_K_M, Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated can reach ~58 tok/s on AMD Instinct MI350X. Speed depends mainly on GPU memory bandwidth. Real-world results typically within ±20%.

tok/s = 1000 ÷ (active GB ÷ (bandwidth GB/s × efficiency) × 1000 + layers × routing ms)

Mixture-of-Experts: just the active experts get read for each token, along with a fixed routing cost per layer.

Example: NVIDIA B200 → 37.1 GB active ÷ (8000 × 0.65) = 7.13 ms, plus 48 layers × 0.055 ms = 2.64 ms, so 1000 ÷ 9.77 ms = ~102 tok/s

Estimated speed at Q4_K_M (108.4 GB)

~102 tok/s
~102 tok/s
~70 tok/s

Real-world results typically within ±20%. Speed depends on batch size, quantization kernel, and software stack.

Learn more about tok/s estimation →

What's the download size of Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

At Q4_K_M, the download is about 108.00 GB. The full-precision BF16 version is 360.00 GB. The smallest option (Q2_K) is 76.50 GB.

Which GPUs can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

No single consumer GPU has enough VRAM to run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated at Q4_K_M (108.4 GB). Multi-GPU or professional hardware is required.

Which devices can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated?

18 devices with unified memory can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next Abliterated at Q4_K_M (108.4 GB), including ASUS Ascent GX10, Mac Pro M2 Ultra (128 GB), Mac Pro M2 Ultra (192 GB), Mac Studio (M3 Ultra, 256GB). Apple Silicon Macs use unified memory shared between CPU and GPU, making them well-suited for local LLM inference.