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Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct vs Qwen2 72B Instruct

Qwen2 72B Instruct leads llmrun Score 77.5 to 74.3 (ranges overlap); neither fits 24 GB.

70.6B · Llama 3 Community · Apr 2024

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72.7B · 32K context · Other · May 2024

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Which should you choose?

Choose Qwen2 72B Instruct if you want…

  • Higher llmrun Score

    77.5 vs 74.3, ranges overlap

  • Ahead on the benchmarks

    3 of 3 shared boards

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct: no clear edge over Qwen2 72B Instruct in the data we have.

On your hardware

Each model at its default quant (Q4_K_M), a smaller one when it must. Estimates, ±20%.

8 GB

RTX 4060 · 8 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 28 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 25.7 GB

12 GB

RTX 3060 12GB · 12 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 28 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 25.7 GB

16 GB

RTX 5060 Ti 16GB · 16 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 28 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 25.7 GB

24 GBreference

RTX 4090 · 24 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 28 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 25.7 GB

32 GB

RTX 5090 · 32 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

IQ2_XS · ~50 tok/s

28 GB · up to 16K

Qwen2 72B Instruct

IQ2_M · ~46 tok/s

30.2 GB · up to 16K

48 GB

RTX A6000 · 48 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~11 tok/stight

51.3 GB · up to 4K

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~11 tok/stight

49.3 GB · up to 8K

Mac 32 GB

Mac Mini M4 · Macs

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

IQ2_XS · ~4 tok/s

28 GB · up to 16K

Qwen2 72B Instruct

IQ2_S · ~4 tok/s

28.4 GB · up to 16K

Mac 64 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~8 tok/s

51.3 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~9 tok/s

49.3 GB · up to 32Kfaster

Mac 128 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~8 tok/s

51.3 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2 72B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~9 tok/s

49.3 GB · up to 32Kfaster

Reference GPU: RTX 4090. Tinted cell = the better pick on that machine (fits, more headroom, or at least 10% faster).

llmrun Score

with its 90% range · bars share one scale

Overall

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

74.369–80

Qwen2 72B Instruct

77.571–84

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct · #89 of 100 open models · #39 of 49 that fit ≤64 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct · #88 of 100 open models · #38 of 49 that fit ≤64 GB

Benchmarks

3 shared boards: Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct leads 0, Qwen2 72B Instruct leads 3 · Benchmarks imported Oct 2026

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

40.6%#70/98 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2 72B Instruct

40.8%#69/98 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jun 2024

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

56.2%#64/145 open

IndependentTIGER-Lab

Qwen2 72B Instruct

64.4%#49/145 open

IndependentTIGER-Lab

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

22.6%#30/39 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2 72B Instruct

39.1%#22/39 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jun 2024

6 more boards (other shared and single-model boards)

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

1276.6#119/187 open

ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026

Qwen2 72B Instruct

1261.9#126/187 open

ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

79.3%#13/85 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2 72B Instruct

82.4%#8/85 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Jun 2024

Only Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct (2)

Only Qwen2 72B Instruct (2)

VRAM by quantization

Memory to load the model and 2K context; below it, the total at 32K and 128K context. Lighter side in bold.

Q2_K

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

33.0 GB26.4 GB file

32K 43.1 GB · 128K 75.5 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

31.9 GB29.8 GB file

32K 41.9 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_S

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

34.0 GB30.9 GB file

32K 44.1 GB · 128K 76.4 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

32.8 GB34.5 GB file

32K 42.9 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_M

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

37.8 GB34.3 GB file

32K 48.0 GB · 128K 80.3 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

36.4 GB37.7 GB file

32K 46.5 GB · 128K —

Q4_0

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

38.8 GB40.0 GB file

32K 48.9 GB · 128K 81.3 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

37.3 GB41.4 GB file

32K 47.4 GB · 128K —

Q4_K_M

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

46.6 GB42.5 GB file

32K 56.7 GB · 128K 89.1 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

44.6 GB47.4 GB file

32K 54.7 GB · 128K —

Q5_K_M

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

55.3 GB50.0 GB file

32K 65.4 GB · 128K 97.8 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

52.8 GB54.4 GB file

32K 62.8 GB · 128K —

Q6_K

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

64.0 GB57.9 GB file

32K 74.2 GB · 128K 107 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

61.0 GB64.3 GB file

32K 71.0 GB · 128K —

Q8_0

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

77.6 GB75.0 GB file

32K 87.7 GB · 128K 120 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

73.7 GB77.3 GB file

32K 83.8 GB · 128K —

16 more quants

IQ2_XXS

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

21.0 GB25.5 GB file

32K 31.0 GB · 128K —

IQ2_XS

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

23.3 GB21.1 GB file

32K 33.4 GB · 128K 65.8 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

22.8 GB27.1 GB file

32K 32.9 GB · 128K —

IQ2_S

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

23.7 GB27.9 GB file

32K 33.8 GB · 128K —

IQ2_M

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

25.5 GB29.3 GB file

32K 35.6 GB · 128K —

IQ3_XXS

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

29.1 GB31.8 GB file

32K 39.2 GB · 128K —

IQ3_XS

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

31.0 GB32.8 GB file

32K 41.0 GB · 128K —

IQ3_S

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

31.9 GB34.5 GB file

32K 41.9 GB · 128K —

IQ3_M

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

33.7 GB35.5 GB file

32K 43.8 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_L

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

39.8 GB37.1 GB file

32K 49.9 GB · 128K 82.3 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

38.2 GB39.5 GB file

32K 48.3 GB · 128K —

IQ4_XS

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2 72B Instruct

40.1 GB39.7 GB file

32K 50.1 GB · 128K —

Q4_1

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

43.7 GB44.3 GB file

32K 53.8 GB · 128K 86.2 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

not listed

Q4_K_S

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

43.7 GB40.3 GB file

32K 53.8 GB · 128K 86.2 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

41.9 GB43.9 GB file

32K 51.9 GB · 128K —

Q5_0

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

48.5 GB48.7 GB file

32K 58.6 GB · 128K 91.0 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

46.4 GB50.2 GB file

32K 56.5 GB · 128K —

Q5_1

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

53.4 GB53.0 GB file

32K 63.5 GB · 128K 95.9 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

not listed

Q5_K_S

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

53.4 GB48.7 GB file

32K 63.5 GB · 128K 95.9 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

51.0 GB51.4 GB file

32K 61.0 GB · 128K —

BF16

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct

155 GB~141.1 GB file

32K 165 GB · 128K 198 GB

Qwen2 72B Instruct

146 GB~145.4 GB file

32K 156 GB · 128K —

How to run each

Specifications

Specifications of Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct and Qwen2 72B Instruct
SpecMeta Llama 3 70B InstructQwen2 72B Instruct
PublisherMetaAlibaba
Parameters70.6B72.7B
Architecture—Qwen2ForCausalLM
Context—32K tokens
ModalitiesChatChat
LicenseLlama 3 CommunityOther
ReleasedApr 2024May 2024

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better, Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct or Qwen2 72B Instruct?

Qwen2 72B Instruct leads llmrun Score 77.5 to 74.3 (ranges overlap); neither fits 24 GB. Choose Qwen2 72B Instruct for higher llmrun Score and ahead on the benchmarks.

Which needs less VRAM, Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct or Qwen2 72B Instruct?

At Q4_K_M, Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct requires 46.6 GB while Qwen2 72B Instruct needs 44.6 GB, making Qwen2 72B Instruct the easier model to run on your local setup.

Can I run Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct or Qwen2 72B Instruct on a 16 GB GPU?

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct does not fit (smallest quant needs 28 GB); Qwen2 72B Instruct does not fit (smallest quant needs 25.7 GB).

Meta Llama 3 70B Instruct vs Qwen2 72B Instruct — VRAM & GPU Comparison | llmrun