Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B vs Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B
Side-by-side comparison of VRAM requirements, quantization, context length, and hardware compatibility.
Specifications
| Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B | Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B | |
|---|---|---|
| Parameters | 70.6B | 8.0B |
| Context | 8K | 131K |
| Architecture | LlamaForCausalLM | LlamaForCausalLM |
| License | Llama 3 Community | Llama 3 Community |
| Downloads | 1.3K | 239.3K |
| Released | — | — |
VRAM by Quantization: Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B vs Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B
| Quantization | Bits | Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B VRAM | Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B VRAM |
|---|---|---|---|
| Q2_K | 3.40 | 31.0 GB | 4.0 GB |
| Q3_K_M | 3.90 | 35.4 GB | 4.5 GB |
| Q3_K_S | 3.50 | 31.8 GB | 4.1 GB |
| Q4_0 | 4.00 | 36.3 GB | — |
| Q4_K_M | 4.80 | 43.3 GB | 5.4 GB |
| Q5_K_M | 5.70 | 51.2 GB | 6.3 GB |
| Q6_K | 6.60 | 59.2 GB | 7.2 GB |
| Q8_0 | 8.00 | 71.5 GB | 8.6 GB |
Verdict
Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B needs less VRAM at Q4_K_M (5.4 GB vs 43.3 GB), so it fits on smaller GPUs. Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B supports a longer context window (131K tokens). Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B is the more widely downloaded of the two.
Frequently Asked Questions
- Which needs less VRAM, Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B or Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B?
At Q4_K_M, Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B needs 43.3 GB and Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B needs 5.4 GB, so Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B is the lighter option to run locally.
- Which has a longer context window, Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B or Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B?
Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B supports 8,192 tokens and Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B supports 131,072 tokens.
- What is the difference between Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B and Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B?
Hermes 2 Theta Llama 3 70B is a 70.6B model from Nous Research (Llama 3 family), while Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 8B is a 8.0B model from Nous Research (Llama 3 family). Compare their VRAM requirements above to see which fits your GPU or Mac.