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Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw — Hardware Requirements & GPU Compatibility

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Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw is a 24.6B-parameter open language model from TheDrainFlorist in the Qwen 3.8 family. It supports a context window of up to 262,144 tokens. At Q4_K_M it needs about 15.13 GB of VRAM — see which GPUs and Macs can run it below.

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Runs well on a 24 GB GPU

Runs from12 GB Q2_K · 16KBest on24 GB Q4_K_M · ~43 tok/s · 128KMacs from16 GB Q2_K · ~13 tok/s

Other

Reference GPU · RTX 4090 24 GB

Estimates, ±20% · how we estimate

Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw

One recommended way. Every other method, OS and quant is in the step-by-step guide.

Recommended

vLLM
one command · needs vLLM installed
$vllm serve TheDrainFlorist/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-VQ-2.1bpw --max-model-len 16384

vLLM repo with its own quantisation

Download: Weights on Hugging Face

install, OS, other quants

Other ways

each opens step-by-step

Run in cloud

Fits on RTX 3090 (24 GB) (8 GB headroom) · Q4_K_M

Generation speed
~40 tok/s
generation speed
Cost per 1M output tokens
$1.49
per 1M output tokens

How Much VRAM Does Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw Need?

Select a quantization level; the listed hardware adheres to it.

QuantizationVRAM+32KOn RTX 4090 (reference)
10.8 GB12.1 GB2-bit · K-quant — 2-bit quantization with K-quant improvementsFits: 256K context · ~61 tok/s
12.4 GB13.6 GB3-bit medium — 3-bit medium quantizationFits: 256K context · ~53 tok/s
15.1 GB16.4 GB4-bit medium — 4-bit medium quantization — most popular sweet spotFits: 128K context · ~43 tok/s
17.9 GB19.2 GB5-bit medium — 5-bit medium quantization — good quality/size tradeoffFits: 128K context · ~37 tok/s
20.7 GB21.9 GB6-bit, very good — 6-bit quantization, very good qualityFits: 64K context · ~32 tok/s
25.0 GB26.2 GB8-bit, near-lossless — 8-bit quantization, near-losslessDoes not fit: needs 25.6 GB
49.5 GB50.8 GB16-bit · bfloat — Brain floating point 16 — preferred for trainingDoes not fit: needs 50.1 GB
est.calculated, no published file yet

Selected Q4_K_M

4-bit medium quantization

15.7GBat 16K context

Weights
14.8 GB
KV cache
0.7 GB
Overhead
0.3 GB

Fits RTX 4090 (reference) · 8.3 GB free · ~43 tok/s

≥50 tok/s needs ≥1.16 TB/s · RTX 5090 ~77

Which Hardware Can Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

Q4_K_M · 15.1 GB

Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw (Q4_K_M) requires 15.1 GB of VRAM to load the model weights. For comfortable inference with headroom for KV cache and system overhead, 20+ GB is recommended. Using the full 262K context window can add up to 10.7 GB, bringing total usage to 25.8 GB. 26 GPUs can run it, including NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080. 122 devices with unified memory can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw, including Mac Studio (M3 Ultra, 256GB), Mac Studio (M3 Ultra, 512GB), Mac Mini M5 Pro (24 GB).

By VRAM tier · typical GPUs and Macs at Q4_K_M
8 GB · RTX 4060Doesn't fit — smallest quant needs 11.4 GB8 GB tier →
12 GB · RTX 3060 12GBQ2_K · 11.4 GB · ~22 tok/s · 16K12 GB tier →
16 GB · RTX 5060 Ti 16GBQ4_K_M · 15.7 GB · ~19 tok/s · 16K16 GB tier →
24 GB · RTX 4090referenceQ4_K_M · 15.7 GB · ~43 tok/s · 128K24 GB tier →
Mac 32 GB · Mac Mini M4Q4_K_M · 15.7 GB · ~6 tok/s · 256KMacs →
Mac 64 GB · Mac Studio M4 MaxQ4_K_M · 15.7 GB · ~25 tok/s · 256KMacs →

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Specifications

Publisher
TheDrainFlorist
Family
Qwen 3.8
Parameters
24.6B
Architecture
Qwen4ExpForConditionalGeneration
Context Length
262,144 tokens
Vocabulary Size
248,320
Release Date
2026-08-30
License
Other

Frequently Asked Questions

How much VRAM does Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw need?

Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw requires 15.1 GB of VRAM at Q4_K_M, or 49.5 GB at BF16. Full 262K context adds up to 10.7 GB (25.8 GB total).

VRAM = Weights + KV Cache + Overhead

Weights = 24.6B × 4.8 bits ÷ 8 = 14.7 GB

KV Cache + Overhead ≈ 0.4 GB (at 2K context + ~0.3 GB framework)

Fit ratings and hardware model lists check this model with room for a 16K-token context, which needs a little more memory.

KV Cache + Overhead ≈ 11.1 GB (at full 262K context)

VRAM usage by quantization

15.1 GB
25.8 GB

Learn more about VRAM estimation →

Can NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

Yes, at Q6_K (20.7 GB) or lower. Higher quantizations like Q8_0 (25.0 GB) exceed the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090's 24 GB.

What's the best quantization for Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

For Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw, Q4_K_M (15.1 GB) offers the best balance of quality and VRAM usage. Q5_K_M (17.9 GB) provides better quality if you have the VRAM. The smallest option is Q2_K at 10.8 GB.

VRAM requirement by quantization

Q2_K
10.8 GB
Q4_K_M ★
15.1 GB
Q5_K_M
17.9 GB
Q6_K
20.7 GB
Q8_0
25.0 GB
BF16
49.5 GB

★ Recommended — best balance of quality and VRAM usage.

Learn more about quantization →

Can I run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw on a Mac?

Yes — Mac Mini M2 Pro (16 GB) and 133 other Macs can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw, the smallest at Q2_K. Apple Silicon uses unified memory, so the model shares RAM with the system. At Q4_K_M you need at least 15.1 GB of usable unified memory (RAM minus macOS overhead), from Mac Mini M5 Pro (24 GB).

Can I run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw locally?

Yes — Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw can run locally on consumer hardware. Popular tools include Ollama, LM Studio, and llama.cpp.

How fast is Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

At Q4_K_M, Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw can reach ~317 tok/s on AMD Instinct MI350X. On NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090: ~43 tok/s. Speed depends mainly on GPU memory bandwidth. Real-world results typically within ±20%.

tok/s = (bandwidth GB/s ÷ model GB) × efficiency

Example: NVIDIA B200 → 8000 ÷ 15.1 × 0.65 = ~344 tok/s

Estimated speed at Q4_K_M (15.1 GB)

~344 tok/s
~43 tok/s
~344 tok/s
~317 tok/s

Real-world results typically within ±20%. Speed depends on batch size, quantization kernel, and software stack.

Learn more about tok/s estimation →

What's the download size of Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

At Q4_K_M, the download is about 14.74 GB. The full-precision BF16 version is 49.14 GB. The smallest option (Q2_K) is 10.44 GB.

Which GPUs can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

26 consumer GPUs can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw at Q4_K_M. Top options include AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, AMD Radeon RX 6800. 7 GPUs have plenty of headroom for comfortable inference.

Which devices can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw?

122 devices with unified memory can run Qwen3.8 Flash Next VQ 2.1bpw at Q4_K_M (15.1 GB), including AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (Strix Point) Laptop, ASUS Ascent GX10, Beelink GTR9 Pro (Ryzen AI Max+ 395, 128 GB), Framework Desktop (Ryzen AI Max+ 395, 128 GB). Apple Silicon Macs use unified memory shared between CPU and GPU, making them well-suited for local LLM inference.