llmrun

DeepSeek v3 vs Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

DeepSeek v3 leads llmrun Score 88.7 to 83.2 (ranges overlap); neither fits 24 GB.

Model A · DeepSeek

DeepSeek v3
88.7llmrun Score

684.5B · 40.1B active · 160K context · Dec 2024

ChatFunctions

405.9B · Llama 3.1 Community · Jul 2024

ChatFunctions

Which should you choose?

Choose DeepSeek v3 if you want…

  • Higher llmrun Score

    88.7 vs 83.2, ranges overlap

  • Ahead on the benchmarks

    4 of 6 shared boards

  • Newer release

    Dec 2024 vs Jul 2024

Choose Llama 3.1 405B Instruct if you want…

  • Lighter on memory

    267.9 vs 414.6 GB at Q4_K_M

On your hardware

Each model at its default quant (Q4_K_M), a smaller one when it must. Estimates, ±20%.

8 GB

RTX 4060 · 8 GB tier

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

12 GB

RTX 3060 12GB · 12 GB tier

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

16 GB

RTX 5060 Ti 16GB · 16 GB tier

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

24 GBreference

RTX 4090 · 24 GB tier

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

32 GB

RTX 5090 · 32 GB tier

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

48 GB

RTX A6000 · 48 GB tier

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

Mac 32 GB

Mac Mini M4 · Macs

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

Mac 64 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

Mac 128 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

DeepSeek v3

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 189.7 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 197.4 GB

Reference GPU: RTX 4090. Tinted cell = the better pick on that machine (fits, more headroom, or at least 10% faster).

llmrun Score

with its 90% range · bars share one scale

Overall

DeepSeek v3

88.785–92

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

83.279–87

Coding

DeepSeek v3

96.991–103

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

no data

Science

DeepSeek v3

89.582–97

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

no data

Reasoning

DeepSeek v3

81.165–97

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

85.077–93

DeepSeek v3 · #71 of 100 open models · #67 of 96 that fit ≤512 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct · #76 of 100 open models · #73 of 96 that fit ≤512 GB

Benchmarks

6 shared boards: DeepSeek v3 leads 4, Llama 3.1 405B Instruct leads 2 · Benchmarks imported Oct 2026

DeepSeek v3

56.5%#45/98 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

50.9%#53/98 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jul 2024

DeepSeek v3

15.8%#56/86 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

9.7%#58/86 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jul 2024

DeepSeek v3

75.9%#29/145 open

IndependentTIGER-Lab

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

73.3%#34/145 open

IndependentTIGER-Lab

DeepSeek v3

18.9%#24/25 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

23.0%#20/25 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jul 2024

DeepSeek v3

64.8%#10/39 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

49.8%#15/39 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jul 2024

DeepSeek v3

59.1#10/26 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

59.9#6/26 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Jul 2024

14 more boards (other shared and single-model boards)

DeepSeek v3

1358.4#70/187 open

ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

1335.5#86/187 open

ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026

DeepSeek v3

87.2%#1/85 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

84.5%#6/85 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Jul 2024

DeepSeek v3

85.2%#4/51 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Dec 2024

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

82.2%#7/51 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Jul 2024

Only Llama 3.1 405B Instruct (2)

VRAM by quantization

Memory to load the model and 2K context; below it, the total at 32K and 128K context. Lighter side in bold.

Q2_K

DeepSeek v3

295 GB~290.9 GB file

32K 294 GB · 128K 300 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

190 GB151.2 GB file

32K 206 GB · 128K 259 GB

Q3_K_S

DeepSeek v3

not listed

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

195 GB177.1 GB file

32K 212 GB · 128K 265 GB

Q3_K_M

DeepSeek v3

338 GB319.2 GB file

32K 336 GB · 128K 343 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

218 GB~197.8 GB file

32K 234 GB · 128K 287 GB

Q4_K_M

DeepSeek v3

415 GB404.4 GB file

32K 413 GB · 128K 420 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

268 GB~243.5 GB file

32K 284 GB · 128K 337 GB

Q5_K_M

DeepSeek v3

492 GB475.4 GB file

32K 490 GB · 128K 497 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

318 GB~289.2 GB file

32K 335 GB · 128K 387 GB

Q6_K

DeepSeek v3

569 GB550.8 GB file

32K 567 GB · 128K 574 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

368 GB~334.8 GB file

32K 385 GB · 128K 438 GB

Q8_0

DeepSeek v3

688 GB713.3 GB file

32K 687 GB · 128K 694 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

446 GB~405.9 GB file

32K 463 GB · 128K 516 GB

10 more quants

IQ2_XXS

DeepSeek v3

192 GB174.4 GB file

32K 191 GB · 128K 198 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ2_XS

DeepSeek v3

209 GB195.1 GB file

32K 208 GB · 128K 215 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ2_S

DeepSeek v3

218 GB197.0 GB file

32K 217 GB · 128K 223 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ2_M

DeepSeek v3

235 GB217.4 GB file

32K 234 GB · 128K 241 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ3_XXS

DeepSeek v3

269 GB257.9 GB file

32K 268 GB · 128K 275 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ3_XS

DeepSeek v3

286 GB272.8 GB file

32K 285 GB · 128K 292 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ3_S

DeepSeek v3

295 GB289.1 GB file

32K 294 GB · 128K 300 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ3_M

DeepSeek v3

312 GB292.1 GB file

32K 311 GB · 128K 318 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

IQ4_NL

DeepSeek v3

389 GB378.1 GB file

32K 388 GB · 128K 395 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

not listed

BF16

DeepSeek v3

1373 GB1342.3 GB file

32K 1372 GB · 128K 1379 GB

Llama 3.1 405B Instruct

893 GB~811.7 GB file

32K 909 GB · 128K 962 GB

How to run each

Specifications

Specifications of DeepSeek v3 and Llama 3.1 405B Instruct
SpecDeepSeek v3Llama 3.1 405B Instruct
PublisherDeepSeekMeta
Parameters684.5B405.9B
Active parameters40B per token—
ArchitectureDeepseekV3ForCausalLM—
Context160K tokens—
ModalitiesChat, Function-callingChat, Function-calling
License—Llama 3.1 Community
ReleasedDec 2024Jul 2024

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better, DeepSeek v3 or Llama 3.1 405B Instruct?

DeepSeek v3 leads llmrun Score 88.7 to 83.2 (ranges overlap); neither fits 24 GB. Choose DeepSeek v3 for higher llmrun Score and ahead on the benchmarks; choose Llama 3.1 405B Instruct for lighter on memory.

Which needs less VRAM, DeepSeek v3 or Llama 3.1 405B Instruct?

At Q4_K_M, DeepSeek v3 requires 414.6 GB while Llama 3.1 405B Instruct needs 267.9 GB, making Llama 3.1 405B Instruct the easier model to run on your local setup.

Can I run DeepSeek v3 or Llama 3.1 405B Instruct on a 16 GB GPU?

DeepSeek v3 does not fit (smallest quant needs 189.7 GB); Llama 3.1 405B Instruct does not fit (smallest quant needs 197.4 GB).

DeepSeek v3 vs Llama 3.1 405B Instruct — VRAM & GPU Comparison | llmrun