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Llama 2 70B Chat HF vs Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 leads llmrun Score 71.6 to 50.4 (ranges overlap); neither fits 24 GB.

69.0B · Llama 2 Community · Jul 2023

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140.6B · 39.2B active · 64K context · Apache 2.0 · Apr 2024

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Which should you choose?

Choose Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 if you want…

  • Higher llmrun Score

    71.6 vs 50.4, ranges overlap

  • Stronger at reasoning

    76.2 vs 45.3

  • Ahead on the benchmarks

    4 of 4 shared boards

  • Fits a Mac 128 GB

    Q4_K_M · 88.4 GB; Llama 2 70B Chat HF needs 156.4 GB at its smallest quant

  • Also does function-calling

    Llama 2 70B Chat HF doesn't list it

  • More permissive license

    Apache 2.0 vs Llama 2 Community

Llama 2 70B Chat HF: no clear edge over Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 in the data we have.

On your hardware

Each model at its default quant (BF16 / Q4_K_M), a smaller one when it must. Estimates, ±20%.

8 GB

RTX 4060 · 8 GB tier

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 42.7 GB

12 GB

RTX 3060 12GB · 12 GB tier

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 42.7 GB

16 GB

RTX 5060 Ti 16GB · 16 GB tier

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 42.7 GB

24 GBreference

RTX 4090 · 24 GB tier

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 42.7 GB

32 GB

RTX 5090 · 32 GB tier

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 42.7 GB

48 GB

RTX A6000 · 48 GB tier

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

IQ2_XS · ~37 tok/s

46.3 GB · up to 16Kfits

Mac 32 GB

Mac Mini M4 · Macs

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 42.7 GB

Mac 64 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

IQ2_M · ~22 tok/s

51.5 GB · up to 32Kfits

Mac 128 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

Doesn't fit

smallest quant needs 156.4 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

Q4_K_M · ~14 tok/s

88.4 GB · up to 64Kfits

Reference GPU: RTX 4090. Tinted cell = the better pick on that machine (fits, more headroom, or at least 10% faster).

llmrun Score

with its 90% range · bars share one scale

Overall

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

50.432–69

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

71.666–78

Reasoning

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

45.321–69

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

76.265–87

Llama 2 70B Chat HF · #100 of 100 open models · #78 of 78 that fit ≤192 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 · #92 of 100 open models · #53 of 60 that fit ≤96 GB

Benchmarks

4 shared boards: Llama 2 70B Chat HF leads 0, Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 leads 4 · Benchmarks imported Oct 2026

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

26.3%#88/98 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jul 2023

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

34.1%#76/98 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

3.3%#39/39 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Jul 2023

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

24.2%#27/39 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

41.6%#68/68 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Jul 2023

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

55.1%#54/68 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

51.4#26/26 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Jul 2023

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

56.3#22/26 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Apr 2024

7 more boards (other shared and single-model boards)

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

1170.7#161/187 open

ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

1229.7#135/187 open

ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026

Only Llama 2 70B Chat HF (4)

Only Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 (2)

VRAM by quantization

Memory to load the model and 2K context; below it, the total at 32K and 128K context. Lighter side in bold.

Q2_K

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

60.5 GB52.1 GB file

32K 67.6 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_S

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

62.3 GB61.5 GB file

32K 69.4 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_M

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

69.3 GB67.8 GB file

32K 76.4 GB · 128K —

Q4_K_M

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

85.2 GB85.6 GB file

32K 92.2 GB · 128K —

Q5_K_M

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

101 GB100.0 GB file

32K 108 GB · 128K —

Q6_K

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

117 GB~116.0 GB file

32K 124 GB · 128K —

Q8_0

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

141 GB149.4 GB file

32K 148 GB · 128K —

BF16

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

152 GB~137.9 GB file

32K 162 GB · 128K 194 GB

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

282 GB~281.3 GB file

32K 289 GB · 128K —

9 more quants

IQ2_XXS

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

39.4 GB37.9 GB file

32K 46.5 GB · 128K —

IQ2_XS

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

43.0 GB42.0 GB file

32K 50.0 GB · 128K —

IQ2_S

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

44.7 GB42.6 GB file

32K 51.8 GB · 128K —

IQ2_M

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

48.2 GB46.7 GB file

32K 55.3 GB · 128K —

IQ3_XS

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

58.8 GB58.2 GB file

32K 65.8 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_L

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

72.8 GB72.6 GB file

32K 79.9 GB · 128K —

IQ4_XS

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

76.4 GB76.4 GB file

32K 83.4 GB · 128K —

Q4_K_S

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

79.9 GB80.5 GB file

32K 86.9 GB · 128K —

Q5_K_S

Llama 2 70B Chat HF

not listed

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1

97.5 GB97.0 GB file

32K 105 GB · 128K —

How to run each

Specifications

Specifications of Llama 2 70B Chat HF and Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1
SpecLlama 2 70B Chat HFMixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1
PublisherMetaMistral AI
Parameters69.0B140.6B
Active parameters—39B per token
Architecture—MixtralForCausalLM
Context—64K tokens
ModalitiesChatChat, Function-calling
LicenseLlama 2 CommunityApache 2.0
ReleasedJul 2023Apr 2024

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better, Llama 2 70B Chat HF or Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1?

Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 leads llmrun Score 71.6 to 50.4 (ranges overlap); neither fits 24 GB. Choose Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 for higher llmrun Score and stronger at reasoning.

Can I run Llama 2 70B Chat HF or Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 on a 16 GB GPU?

Llama 2 70B Chat HF does not fit (smallest quant needs 156.4 GB); Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 does not fit (smallest quant needs 42.7 GB).

Llama 2 70B Chat HF vs Mixtral 8x22B Instruct v0.1 — VRAM & GPU Comparison | llmrun