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Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct vs Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct leads llmrun Score 65.1 to 61.7 (ranges overlap); both fit 24 GB at Q4_K_M.

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Which should you choose?

Choose Qwen2.5 7B Instruct if you want…

  • Higher llmrun Score

    65.1 vs 61.7, ranges overlap

  • Ahead on the benchmarks

    4 of 5 shared boards

  • Also does function-calling

    Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct doesn't list it

  • More permissive license

    Apache 2.0 vs Llama 3 Community

  • Newer release

    Sep 2024 vs Apr 2024

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct: no clear edge over Qwen2.5 7B Instruct in the data we have.

On your hardware

Each model at its default quant (Q4_K_M), a smaller one when it must. Estimates, ±20%.

8 GB

RTX 4060 · 8 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~33 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 16K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~35 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

12 GB

RTX 3060 12GB · 12 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~44 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~47 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

16 GB

RTX 5060 Ti 16GB · 16 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~55 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~58 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

24 GBreference

RTX 4090 · 24 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~124 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~131 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

32 GB

RTX 5090 · 32 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~220 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~233 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

48 GB

RTX A6000 · 48 GB tier

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~94 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~100 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

Mac 32 GB

Mac Mini M4 · Macs

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~16 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~17 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

Mac 64 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~72 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~77 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

Mac 128 GB

Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~72 tok/s

7.9 GB · up to 32K

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

Q4_K_M · ~77 tok/s

5.8 GB · up to 32K

Reference GPU: RTX 4090. Tinted cell = the better pick on that machine (fits, more headroom, or at least 10% faster).

llmrun Score

with its 90% range · bars share one scale

Overall

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

61.754–69

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

65.155–75

Reasoning

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

63.949–79

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

65.150–80

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct · #89 of 92 open models · #32 of 34 that fit 24 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct · #86 of 92 open models · #29 of 34 that fit 24 GB

Benchmarks

5 shared boards: Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct leads 0, Qwen2.5 7B Instruct leads 4 · Benchmarks imported Oct 2026

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

26.1%#88/97 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

35.5%#74/97 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Sep 2024

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

1.9%#75/85 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

2.5%#74/85 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Sep 2024

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

68.8%#30/85 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

72.9%#24/85 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Sep 2024

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

0.0%#59/67 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

0.0%#64/67 open

IndependentEpoch AI · Sep 2024

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

43.9%#66/68 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Apr 2024

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

47.7%#64/68 open

Lab-reportedEpoch AI · Sep 2024

10 more boards (other shared and single-model boards)

Only Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct (8)

Only Qwen2.5 7B Instruct (2)

VRAM by quantization

Memory to load the model and 2K context; below it, the total at 32K and 128K context. Lighter side in bold.

Q2_K

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.8 GB3.2 GB file

32K 9.3 GB · 128K 26.9 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.7 GB3.0 GB file

32K 5.4 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_S

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.9 GB3.7 GB file

32K 9.4 GB · 128K 27.0 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.8 GB3.5 GB file

32K 5.5 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_M

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

4.3 GB4.0 GB file

32K 9.8 GB · 128K 27.4 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.1 GB3.8 GB file

32K 5.9 GB · 128K —

Q4_0

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

4.4 GB4.7 GB file

32K 9.9 GB · 128K 27.5 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.2 GB4.4 GB file

32K 6.0 GB · 128K —

Q4_K_M

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

5.3 GB4.9 GB file

32K 10.8 GB · 128K 28.4 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.0 GB4.7 GB file

32K 6.8 GB · 128K —

Q5_K_M

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

6.3 GB5.7 GB file

32K 11.8 GB · 128K 29.4 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.8 GB5.4 GB file

32K 7.6 GB · 128K —

Q6_K

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

7.3 GB6.6 GB file

32K 12.8 GB · 128K 30.4 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

6.7 GB6.3 GB file

32K 8.5 GB · 128K —

Q8_0

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

8.8 GB8.5 GB file

32K 14.3 GB · 128K 32.0 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

8.0 GB8.1 GB file

32K 9.8 GB · 128K —

20 more quants

IQ2_XXS

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

2.4 GB2.4 GB file

32K 7.9 GB · 128K 25.6 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

2.5 GB2.3 GB file

32K 4.3 GB · 128K —

IQ2_XS

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

2.7 GB2.6 GB file

32K 8.2 GB · 128K 25.8 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

2.7 GB2.5 GB file

32K 4.5 GB · 128K —

IQ2_S

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

2.8 GB2.8 GB file

32K 8.3 GB · 128K 25.9 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

2.8 GB2.6 GB file

32K 4.6 GB · 128K —

IQ2_M

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.0 GB2.9 GB file

32K 8.5 GB · 128K 26.1 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.0 GB2.8 GB file

32K 4.8 GB · 128K —

IQ3_XXS

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.4 GB3.3 GB file

32K 8.9 GB · 128K 26.5 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.4 GB3.1 GB file

32K 5.1 GB · 128K —

Q2_K_S

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.5 GB3.0 GB file

32K 9.0 GB · 128K 26.7 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.5 GB2.8 GB file

32K 5.2 GB · 128K —

IQ3_XS

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.6 GB3.5 GB file

32K 9.1 GB · 128K 26.8 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.6 GB3.3 GB file

32K 5.3 GB · 128K —

IQ3_S

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

3.8 GB3.7 GB file

32K 9.3 GB · 128K 26.9 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.7 GB3.5 GB file

32K 5.4 GB · 128K —

IQ3_M

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

4.0 GB3.8 GB file

32K 9.5 GB · 128K 27.1 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

3.8 GB3.6 GB file

32K 5.6 GB · 128K —

Q3_K_L

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

4.5 GB4.3 GB file

32K 10.0 GB · 128K 27.7 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.3 GB4.1 GB file

32K 6.1 GB · 128K —

IQ4_XS

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

4.8 GB4.4 GB file

32K 10.3 GB · 128K 27.9 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.5 GB4.2 GB file

32K 6.3 GB · 128K —

IQ4_NL

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

5.0 GB4.7 GB file

32K 10.5 GB · 128K 28.1 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.7 GB4.4 GB file

32K 6.5 GB · 128K —

Q4_1

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

5.0 GB5.1 GB file

32K 10.5 GB · 128K 28.1 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.7 GB4.9 GB file

32K 6.5 GB · 128K —

Q4_K_S

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

5.0 GB4.7 GB file

32K 10.5 GB · 128K 28.1 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

4.7 GB4.5 GB file

32K 6.5 GB · 128K —

Q4_K_L

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.1 GB5.1 GB file

32K 6.8 GB · 128K —

Q5_0

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

5.5 GB5.6 GB file

32K 11.0 GB · 128K 28.6 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.2 GB5.3 GB file

32K 6.9 GB · 128K —

Q5_1

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

6.1 GB6.1 GB file

32K 11.6 GB · 128K 29.2 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.7 GB5.8 GB file

32K 7.4 GB · 128K —

Q5_K_S

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

6.1 GB5.6 GB file

32K 11.6 GB · 128K 29.2 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.7 GB5.3 GB file

32K 7.4 GB · 128K —

Q5_K_L

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

not listed

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

5.9 GB5.8 GB file

32K 7.7 GB · 128K —

BF16

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct

17.7 GB~16.1 GB file

32K 23.2 GB · 128K 40.8 GB

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct

15.7 GB~15.2 GB file

32K 17.4 GB · 128K —

How to run each

Specifications

Specifications of Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct and Qwen2.5 7B Instruct
SpecMeta Llama 3 8B InstructQwen2.5 7B Instruct
PublisherMetaAlibaba
Parameters8.0B7.6B
Architecture—Qwen2ForCausalLM
Context—32K tokens
ModalitiesChatChat, Function-calling
LicenseLlama 3 CommunityApache 2.0
ReleasedApr 2024Sep 2024

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better, Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct or Qwen2.5 7B Instruct?

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct leads llmrun Score 65.1 to 61.7 (ranges overlap); both fit 24 GB at Q4_K_M. Choose Qwen2.5 7B Instruct for higher llmrun Score and ahead on the benchmarks.

Which needs less VRAM, Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct or Qwen2.5 7B Instruct?

At Q4_K_M, Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct requires 5.3 GB while Qwen2.5 7B Instruct needs 5.0 GB, making Qwen2.5 7B Instruct the easier model to run on your local setup.

Which is faster on RTX 4090?

Estimated decode speed on RTX 4090 is about 124 tok/s for Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct (Q4_K_M) and 131 tok/s for Qwen2.5 7B Instruct (Q4_K_M), so Qwen2.5 7B Instruct is faster. Estimates, ±20%.

Can I run Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct or Qwen2.5 7B Instruct on a 16 GB GPU?

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct fits at Q4_K_M; Qwen2.5 7B Instruct fits at Q4_K_M.

Meta Llama 3 8B Instruct vs Qwen2.5 7B Instruct — VRAM & GPU Comparison | llmrun