Qwen3.8 27B vs QwQ 32B
Qwen3.8 27B leads llmrun Score 121.5 to 96.1; both fit 24 GB at Q4_K_M.
Model A · Alibaba
Qwen3.8 27B27.8B · 256K context · Apache 2.0 · Aug 2026
Model B · Alibaba
QwQ 32B32.8B · 40K context · Apache 2.0 · Mar 2025
Choose Qwen3.8 27B if you want…
Higher llmrun Score
121.5 vs 96.1
Fits a 12 GB GPU
IQ3_XXS · 12 GB; QwQ 32B needs 13.6 GB at its smallest quant
Lighter on memory
17.4 vs 20.5 GB at Q4_K_M
Longer context window
256K vs 40K tokens
Also does vision
QwQ 32B doesn't list it
Newer release
Aug 2026 vs Mar 2025
Choose QwQ 32B if you want…
Also does chat, reasoning
Qwen3.8 27B doesn't list it
On your hardware
Each model at its default quant (Q4_K_M), a smaller one when it must. Estimates, ±20%.
8 GB
RTX 4060 · 8 GB tier
Qwen3.8 27B
Doesn't fit
smallest quant needs 8.8 GB
QwQ 32B
Doesn't fit
smallest quant needs 13.6 GB
12 GB
RTX 3060 12GB · 12 GB tier
Qwen3.8 27B
IQ3_XXS · ~20 tok/s
12 GB · up to 16Kfits
QwQ 32B
Doesn't fit
smallest quant needs 13.6 GB
16 GB
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB · 16 GB tier
Qwen3.8 27B
Q3_K_L · ~19 tok/s
15.4 GB · up to 16Kbetter quant
QwQ 32B
IQ2_M · ~25 tok/s
15.7 GB · up to 16K
24 GBreference
RTX 4090 · 24 GB tier
Qwen3.8 27B
Q4_K_M · ~38 tok/s
17.9 GB · up to 64Kmore headroom
QwQ 32B
Q4_K_M · ~32 tok/stight
24.3 GB · up to 8K
32 GB
RTX 5090 · 32 GB tier
Qwen3.8 27B
Q4_K_M · ~67 tok/s
17.9 GB · up to 256Kfaster
QwQ 32B
Q4_K_M · ~57 tok/s
24.3 GB · up to 40K
48 GB
RTX A6000 · 48 GB tier
Qwen3.8 27B
Q4_K_M · ~29 tok/s
17.9 GB · up to 256Kfaster
QwQ 32B
Q4_K_M · ~24 tok/s
24.3 GB · up to 40K
Mac 32 GB
Mac Mini M4 · Macs
Qwen3.8 27B
Q4_K_M · ~5 tok/s
17.9 GB · up to 128Kfaster
QwQ 32B
Q4_K_M · ~4 tok/s
24.3 GB · up to 16K
Mac 64 GB
Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs
Qwen3.8 27B
Q4_K_M · ~22 tok/s
17.9 GB · up to 256Kfaster
QwQ 32B
Q4_K_M · ~19 tok/s
24.3 GB · up to 40K
Mac 128 GB
Mac Studio M4 Max · Macs
Qwen3.8 27B
Q4_K_M · ~22 tok/s
17.9 GB · up to 256Kfaster
QwQ 32B
Q4_K_M · ~19 tok/s
24.3 GB · up to 40K
Reference GPU: RTX 4090. Tinted cell = the better pick on that machine (fits, more headroom, or at least 10% faster).
Overall
Qwen3.8 27B
QwQ 32B
Coding
Qwen3.8 27B
QwQ 32B
no data
Math
Qwen3.8 27B
QwQ 32B
no data
Science
Qwen3.8 27B
QwQ 32B
no data
Reasoning
Qwen3.8 27B
QwQ 32B
no data
Qwen3.8 27B · #10 of 92 open models · #1 of 34 that fit 24 GB
QwQ 32B · #59 of 92 open models · #16 of 34 that fit 24 GB
Qwen3.8 27B
1438.1#22/186 open
ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026
QwQ 32B
1335.7#84/186 open
ArenaLMArena · Oct 2026
19 more boards (other shared and single-model boards)
Only Qwen3.8 27B (13)
- LiveBench Coding75.7
- LiveBench Reasoning80.0
- LMArena WebDev1592.8
- LiveBench Math86.2
- ARC-AGI-242.4%
- SciCode46.6%
- ARC-AGI87.5%
- CritPt5.4%
- DTBench88.0%
- LMCA41.4%
- APEX-Agents47.5%
- Surface Evolver Bench45.0%
- ProofBench16.0%
Only QwQ 32B (6)
- GPQA Diamond65.3%
- AIME 2024/202559.2%
- MMLU-Pro69.1%
- Aider Polyglot20.9%
- Chess Puzzles5.0%
- Fiction.LiveBench83.3%
VRAM by quantization
Memory to load the model and 2K context; below it, the total at 32K and 128K context. Lighter side in bold.
Q2_K
Qwen3.8 27B
12.6 GB10.8 GB file
32K 13.9 GB · 128K 19.3 GB
QwQ 32B
14.8 GB12.3 GB file
32K 22.8 GB · 128K —
Q3_K_S
Qwen3.8 27B
12.9 GB12.7 GB file
32K 14.2 GB · 128K 19.6 GB
QwQ 32B
15.2 GB14.4 GB file
32K 23.2 GB · 128K —
Q3_K_M
Qwen3.8 27B
14.3 GB13.4 GB file
32K 15.6 GB · 128K 21.0 GB
QwQ 32B
16.8 GB15.9 GB file
32K 24.9 GB · 128K —
Q4_0
Qwen3.8 27B
14.6 GB~13.9 GB file
32K 16.0 GB · 128K 21.4 GB
QwQ 32B
17.2 GB18.7 GB file
32K 25.3 GB · 128K —
Q4_K_M
Qwen3.8 27B
17.4 GB16.5 GB file
32K 18.8 GB · 128K 24.1 GB
QwQ 32B
20.5 GB19.9 GB file
32K 28.6 GB · 128K —
Q5_K_M
Qwen3.8 27B
20.5 GB19.8 GB file
32K 21.9 GB · 128K 27.3 GB
QwQ 32B
24.2 GB23.3 GB file
32K 32.2 GB · 128K —
Q6_K
Qwen3.8 27B
23.7 GB22.0 GB file
32K 25.0 GB · 128K 30.4 GB
QwQ 32B
27.9 GB26.9 GB file
32K 35.9 GB · 128K —
Q8_0
Qwen3.8 27B
28.5 GB29.0 GB file
32K 29.9 GB · 128K 35.2 GB
QwQ 32B
33.6 GB34.8 GB file
32K 41.7 GB · 128K —
20 more quants
IQ2_XXS
Qwen3.8 27B
8.4 GB7.3 GB file
32K 9.7 GB · 128K 15.1 GB
QwQ 32B
9.9 GB9.0 GB file
32K 17.9 GB · 128K —
IQ2_XS
Qwen3.8 27B
9.1 GB9.1 GB file
32K 10.4 GB · 128K 15.8 GB
QwQ 32B
10.7 GB10.0 GB file
32K 18.7 GB · 128K —
IQ2_S
Qwen3.8 27B
9.4 GB8.4 GB file
32K 10.8 GB · 128K 16.1 GB
QwQ 32B
11.1 GB10.4 GB file
32K 19.1 GB · 128K —
IQ2_M
Qwen3.8 27B
10.1 GB10.5 GB file
32K 11.5 GB · 128K 16.8 GB
QwQ 32B
11.9 GB11.3 GB file
32K 19.9 GB · 128K —
IQ3_XXS
Qwen3.8 27B
11.5 GB10.9 GB file
32K 12.9 GB · 128K 18.2 GB
QwQ 32B
13.5 GB12.8 GB file
32K 21.6 GB · 128K —
Q2_K_S
Qwen3.8 27B
not listed
QwQ 32B
13.9 GB11.5 GB file
32K 22.0 GB · 128K —
IQ3_XS
Qwen3.8 27B
12.2 GB10.4 GB file
32K 13.6 GB · 128K 18.9 GB
QwQ 32B
14.4 GB13.7 GB file
32K 22.4 GB · 128K —
IQ3_S
Qwen3.8 27B
12.6 GB12.0 GB file
32K 13.9 GB · 128K 19.3 GB
QwQ 32B
14.8 GB14.4 GB file
32K 22.8 GB · 128K —
IQ3_M
Qwen3.8 27B
13.3 GB14.9 GB file
32K 14.6 GB · 128K 20.0 GB
QwQ 32B
15.6 GB14.8 GB file
32K 23.6 GB · 128K —
Q3_K_L
Qwen3.8 27B
15.0 GB14.1 GB file
32K 16.3 GB · 128K 21.7 GB
QwQ 32B
17.6 GB17.2 GB file
32K 25.7 GB · 128K —
IQ4_XS
Qwen3.8 27B
15.7 GB14.3 GB file
32K 17.0 GB · 128K 22.4 GB
QwQ 32B
18.5 GB17.7 GB file
32K 26.5 GB · 128K —
IQ4_NL
Qwen3.8 27B
16.4 GB17.4 GB file
32K 17.7 GB · 128K 23.1 GB
QwQ 32B
19.3 GB18.7 GB file
32K 27.3 GB · 128K —
Q4_1
Qwen3.8 27B
16.4 GB17.5 GB file
32K 17.7 GB · 128K 23.1 GB
QwQ 32B
19.3 GB20.6 GB file
32K 27.3 GB · 128K —
Q4_K_S
Qwen3.8 27B
16.4 GB15.4 GB file
32K 17.7 GB · 128K 23.1 GB
QwQ 32B
19.3 GB18.8 GB file
32K 27.3 GB · 128K —
Q4_K_L
Qwen3.8 27B
17.8 GB18.8 GB file
32K 19.1 GB · 128K 24.5 GB
QwQ 32B
20.9 GB20.4 GB file
32K 29.0 GB · 128K —
Q5_0
Qwen3.8 27B
not listed
QwQ 32B
21.3 GB22.6 GB file
32K 29.4 GB · 128K —
Q5_1
Qwen3.8 27B
not listed
QwQ 32B
23.4 GB24.6 GB file
32K 31.4 GB · 128K —
Q5_K_S
Qwen3.8 27B
19.9 GB18.7 GB file
32K 21.2 GB · 128K 26.6 GB
QwQ 32B
23.4 GB22.6 GB file
32K 31.4 GB · 128K —
Q5_K_L
Qwen3.8 27B
20.9 GB21.5 GB file
32K 22.2 GB · 128K 27.6 GB
QwQ 32B
24.6 GB23.7 GB file
32K 32.6 GB · 128K —
BF16
Qwen3.8 27B
56.3 GB54.7 GB file
32K 57.7 GB · 128K 63.0 GB
QwQ 32B
66.4 GB65.5 GB file
32K 74.4 GB · 128K —
Qwen3.8 27B
Ollama · Q4_K_M
ollama run hf.co/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:Q4_K_MQwQ 32B
Ollama · Q4_K_M
ollama run hf.co/MaziyarPanahi/QwQ-32B-GGUF:Q4_K_M| Spec | Qwen3.8 27B | QwQ 32B |
|---|---|---|
| Publisher | Alibaba | Alibaba |
| Parameters | 27.8B | 32.8B |
| Architecture | Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration | Qwen2ForCausalLM |
| Context | 256K tokens | 40K tokens |
| Modalities | Vision, Function-calling | Chat, Reasoning, Function-calling |
| License | Apache 2.0 | Apache 2.0 |
| Released | Aug 2026 | Mar 2025 |
Frequently Asked Questions
Which is better, Qwen3.8 27B or QwQ 32B?
Qwen3.8 27B leads llmrun Score 121.5 to 96.1; both fit 24 GB at Q4_K_M. Choose Qwen3.8 27B for higher llmrun Score and fits a 12 GB GPU; choose QwQ 32B for also does chat, reasoning.
Which needs less VRAM, Qwen3.8 27B or QwQ 32B?
At Q4_K_M, Qwen3.8 27B requires 17.4 GB while QwQ 32B needs 20.5 GB, making Qwen3.8 27B the easier model to run on your local setup.
Which is faster on RTX 4090?
Estimated decode speed on RTX 4090 is about 38 tok/s for Qwen3.8 27B (Q4_K_M) and 32 tok/s for QwQ 32B (Q4_K_M), so Qwen3.8 27B is faster. Estimates, ±20%.
Can I run Qwen3.8 27B or QwQ 32B on a 16 GB GPU?
Qwen3.8 27B fits at Q3_K_L; QwQ 32B fits at IQ2_M.
Which has a longer context window, Qwen3.8 27B or QwQ 32B?
Qwen3.8 27B supports 262,144 tokens and QwQ 32B supports 40,960 tokens.